Aug 1, 2011
I'm not familiar with the 500 pix thing, and I haven't made Flickr/DeviantArt a significant part of my life in at least three or four years. However, as a former internet amateur artist, my opinion is this: "Coop" is a little too full of himself. It's obvious where his interests lie, and that he is unable to appreciate any art that lies outside his preferred aesthetic. Thus his opinion of anything besides his own style is totally irrelevant.
Time has shown over and over that art is defined both by the artist and the audience, both in the present and in the future. "Coop" will almost certainly not be known in 10 or 20 years. Van Gogh was not known in his own time. The artists to matter to the public are rarely the artists who make money, but every artist matters to him/herself and his/her fans. If people want critiques from other artists or their audiences to improve their technique or their public acceptance, fantastic. Go for it. But high horses really have no legitimate place in the matter. In 50 years, their stuff will be just as insignificant as mine and Aunt Sally's.
I think a lot of this is a response to the type of Flickr feedback he's been getting. Most of it is just horny males making lewd comments, but the reality is that a big risk of public display of adult material is that most people don't ACT like adults. I'm really surprised he ever made all his photography open to anyone who was a contact, but truth be told his annoyance is really a result of his own lack of policing his feed.
(This time it really is me)
As a photoghrapher myself I always show my customers what I consider "3" star photos (the one I humbly consider the best ones just to find out what I chose as the worst was what the customer considered the bes: 1 star photos...Decadence is always part of fashion/art yet as a photographer I do care about Coop's comments, for starters I believe the guy has far to much up in his head and I do concur (as much as I did last podcast) with both of you and now that you bring it back to the 5's Joe, here is my 5 cents regarding Coop's boastful opinions about photographers in general I am slightly annoyed (BTW my work is on flckr too! he called my work artless!! that ain't no fair!)
The point of view Coop expressed is so similar to comments on the fashion world, decadence is always in vogue and Coop may/could/would/might not have agreed with himself 10 years ago, thing is that when rock bands make money they start becoming less of a struggling group of real artists & sadly Coop also seems to be showing these signs, hell, I do not have to go that far! even my granpa used to say that "Everything sucks!" and I always suspected that if viagra had existed back then things would have sucked far less. I really do not know what Coop's point is, (or what Viagra he needs, his pin ups never fail to give me a boner....we might want to ask Lando about Coops psychological profile...) Quite honestly this time, Coop really strikes me as a mix of my granpa combined with Sacha Baron Cohen's Bruno Character, either he is trolling on google plus or he is just truly deluded, if he really wants someone to annihilate his sophomoric statements it would suffice to show him works by Da Vinci. If everything on Flkr or # pixels (I forgot how many pixels) is artless crap, then his whole body of work is crap from the moment he was born as an artist to the point he dies as such if we compare him with an authentic artist such as Da Vinci. Even as an artist you have to make sense and keep the reach of own skills within a realistic range in the scope of what masterful artists did with orders of magnitude fewer tools: Da Vinci never had an SLR, never had social networks he never had the slightest approximation to something electronic yet his art lives up to today, now on the other side of the spectrum we have Coop, an artist with a mouth big enough to feel qualified to belittle others, what has he done that is so masterful? What has he achieved that gives him enough delusion to think he can demean complete social networks? So according to him, there are no artists on Flckr right?
(Arrrgh Coop, what a poop you ended up being...)
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